Ray Peat

Ray Peat on Body Temperature and Pulse

By OxidativeState · · 55 articles · 39 studies

Short answer: Ray Peat judged metabolic rate with a thermometer and a watch. He used body temperature together with the resting pulse, measured on waking and again after breakfast, because either number alone can be misleading.

What Ray Peat wrote about temperature and pulse

The method comes from Broda Barnes, who argued that the temperature taken before getting out of bed is the best basis for diagnosing thyroid function. Source: TSH, temperature, pulse rate, and other indicators in hypothyroidism

Peat added the pulse. He met people with clear hypothyroid symptoms and a normal temperature, and others whose resting pulse was very high and came down to normal when they took thyroid. Source: TSH, temperature, pulse rate, and other indicators in hypothyroidism

He cites a finding that healthy and intelligent groups of people average a resting pulse of about 85 beats per minute, and less healthy groups about 70. Source: TSH, temperature, pulse rate, and other indicators in hypothyroidism

He described the after-breakfast test. In a healthy person both temperature and pulse rise after breakfast. In a very hypothyroid person the morning numbers can be held up by cortisol and adrenaline, and fall once food brings those down. Source: TSH, temperature, pulse rate, and other indicators in hypothyroidism

Weather can fool the thermometer. In hot, humid air it takes very little metabolism to hold 98.6°F, so the pulse tells more. In the cold, the temperature of the hands and feet can be a better sign than the mouth. Source: TSH, temperature, pulse rate, and other indicators in hypothyroidism

Hormones move the thermostat. Estrogen lowers body temperature and progesterone raises it. Serotonin, melatonin and polyunsaturated fats lower it too. Source: Multiple sclerosis, protein, fats, and progesterone

A higher body temperature improves deep sleep. He notes that a hot bath, or just warming the feet, works like thyroid in that respect. Source: Thyroid, insomnia, and the insanities: Commonalities in disease

What he suggested in practice

  • Take temperature and pulse on waking, and again after breakfast.
  • Read them together.
  • Watch the hands and feet in cool weather.

Where he wrote about it

This topic comes up in 55 of the articles on his site. These are the most relevant ones:

My take

A healthy thyroid makes you feel warm, especially in the hands and feet. My quick check is temperature, pulse, cold hands, mood and whether you have at least two bowel movements a day.

Quick answers

What pulse rate did Ray Peat consider healthy?

He cites groups of healthy, intelligent people averaging about 85 beats per minute at rest, compared with about 70 in less healthy groups.

What body temperature did Ray Peat look for?

He refers to 98.6°F as normal and, following Broda Barnes, to the waking temperature as the main sign, but always read together with the pulse.

Why measure after breakfast?

Because stress hormones can hold the morning temperature and pulse up in a hypothyroid person. After eating, those hormones fall and the true state shows.

39 studies Ray Peat cited on temperature and pulse

  1. Changes of body temperature and thermoregulatory responses of freely moving rats during GABAergic pharmacological stimulation to the preoptic area and anterior hypothalamus in several ambient temperaturesBrain Res · 2005 · PMID 15913569 · cited in Rosacea, inflammation, and aging: The inefficiency of stress
  2. Cell-mediated mineralization in culture at low temperature associated with subtle thermogenic responseJ Cell Biochem · 1996 · PMID 8913874 · cited in Osteoporosis, harmful calcification, and nerve/muscle malfunctions
  3. Heated and humidified CO2 prevents hypothermia, peritoneal injury, and intra-abdominal adhesions during prolonged laparoscopic insufflationsJ Surg Res · 2009 · PMID 18639246 · cited in Regeneration and degeneration: Types of inflammation change with aging
  4. A central thermogenic-like mechanism in feeding regulation: an interplay between arcuate nucleus T3 and UCP2Cell Metab · 2007 · PMID 17189204 · cited in Protective CO2 and aging
  5. Mild hypothermia promotes pro-inflammatory cytokine production in monocytesJ Neurosurg Anesthesiol · 2006 · PMID 16799346 · cited in Salt, energy, metabolic rate, and longevity
  6. Changes in rectal temperature and ECoG spectral power of sensorimotor cortex elicited in conscious rabbits by i.c.v. injection of GABA, GABA(A) and GABA(B) agonists and antagonistsBr J Pharmacol · 2004 · PMID 14662729 · cited in Salt, energy, metabolic rate, and longevity
  7. Cold-induced thermogenesis mediated by GABA in the preoptic area of anesthetized ratsAm J Physiol Regul Integr Comp Physiol · 2004 · PMID 15031132 · cited in Salt, energy, metabolic rate, and longevity
  8. Activation of brown adipose tissue thermogenesis increases slow wave sleep in ratNeurosci Lett · 2003 · PMID 12633889 · cited in Salt, energy, metabolic rate, and longevity
  9. Spread of discrete structural changes in synthetic polyanionic gel: a model of propagation of a nerve impulseJ Theor Biol · 2002 · PMID 12384052 · cited in Cataracts: water, energy, light, and aging
  10. Thermogenesis induced by intravenous infusion of hypertonic solutions in the ratJ Physiol · 2001 · PMID 11533148 · cited in Salt, energy, metabolic rate, and longevity
  11. Alterations in autonomic nervous control of heart rate among tourists at 2700 and 3700 m above sea levelWilderness Environ Med · 2001 · PMID 11294561 · cited in Autonomic systems
  12. Estrogen modifies the temperature effects of progesteroneJ Appl Physiol (1985) · 2000 · PMID 10797125 · cited in Hot flashes, energy, and aging
  13. Decreased heart rate variability in patients with type 1 diabetes mellitus is related to arterial wall stiffnessJ Intern Med · 1999 · PMID 10095817 · cited in How do you know? Students, patients, and discovery
  14. Improving eggshell quality at high temperatures with dietary sodium bicarbonatePoult Sci · 1997 · PMID 9106886 · cited in Osteoporosis, aging, tissue renewal, and product science
  15. Cold-induced salt intake in mice and catecholamine, renin and thermogenesis mechanismsAppetite · 1996 · PMID 8800478 · cited in Salt, energy, metabolic rate, and longevity
  16. Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs alter body temperature and suppress melatonin in humansPhysiol Behav · 1996 · PMID 8848472 · cited in Water: swelling, tension, pain, fatigue, aging
  17. Heart rate variation, age, and behavior in subjects with senile dementia of Alzheimer typeChronobiol Int · 1995 · PMID 7750156 · cited in Alzheimer's: The problem of Alzheimer's disease as a clue to immortality — part 1
  18. Influence of nutrition, thyroid hormones, and rectal temperature on in-hospital mortality of elderly patients with acute illnessAm J Clin Nutr · 1995 · PMID 7872226 · cited in Alzheimer's: The problem of Alzheimer's disease as a clue to immortality — part 1
  19. Nutrition, thyroid hormones, body temperature, and mortality of elderly patients with acute illnessesAm J Clin Nutr · 1995 · PMID 7661130 · cited in Alzheimer's: The problem of Alzheimer's disease as a clue to immortality — part 2
  20. Influence of temperature on QCT: implications for mineral densitometryJ Comput Assist Tomogr · 1993 · PMID 8227582 · cited in Bone Density: First Do No Harm
  21. Studies on facial temperature rise and involvement of serotonin in the respiratory stimulation by CRHHorm Metab Res · 1991 · PMID 1761282 · cited in Hot flashes, energy, and aging
  22. Low salt mimics effects of dark pulses on circadian pacemaker in cultured chick pineal cellsAm J Physiol · 1991 · PMID 1750567 · cited in Water: swelling, tension, pain, fatigue, aging
  23. Energy expenditure and diet-induced thermogenesis in presence and absence of hyperphagia induced by insulinAm J Physiol · 1989 · PMID 2679150 · cited in Sugar issues
  24. Ouabain (or salt solution lacking potassium) mimics the effects of dark pulses on the circadian pacemaker in cultured chick pineal cellsBrain Res · 1989 · PMID 2553214 · cited in Water: swelling, tension, pain, fatigue, aging
  25. Opposing effects of activation of central GABAA and GABAB receptors on brown fat thermogenesis in the ratNeuropharmacology · 1988 · PMID 2843778 · cited in Salt, energy, metabolic rate, and longevity
  26. Chronic inhibition of GABA transaminase results in activation of thermogenesis and brown fat in the ratGen Pharmacol · 1988 · PMID 3417101 · cited in Salt, energy, metabolic rate, and longevity
  27. Energy balance and brown adipose tissue thermogenesis during pregnancy in Syrian hamstersAm J Physiol · 1986 · PMID 3706570 · cited in Osteoporosis, aging, tissue renewal, and product science
  28. Activation of thermogenesis of brown fat in rats by baclofenNeuropharmacology · 1986 · PMID 3748315 · cited in Salt, energy, metabolic rate, and longevity
  29. Effect of carbonated water on growth performance of cockerels subjected to constant and cyclic heat stress temperaturesPoult Sci · 1985 · PMID 2991877 · cited in Osteoporosis, harmful calcification, and nerve/muscle malfunctions
  30. [Reflection of the semantic characteristics of the thinking process in the impulse activity of neurons]Fiziol Zh SSSR Im I M Sechenova · 1984 · PMID 6386545 · cited in Intuitive knowledge and its development
  31. Influence of sodium intake on thermogenesis and brown adipose tissue in the ratInt J Obes · 1984 · PMID 6086543 · cited in Salt, energy, metabolic rate, and longevity
  32. Effects of hyperprolactinaemia on core temperature of the ratBrain Res Bull · 1984 · PMID 6329480 · cited in Salt, energy, metabolic rate, and longevity
  33. Stimulation of thermogenesis by carbohydrate overfeeding. Evidence against sympathetic nervous system mediationJ Clin Invest · 1983 · PMID 6339561 · cited in Salt, energy, metabolic rate, and longevity
  34. Temperature regulation and hypohydration: a singular viewJ Appl Physiol Respir Environ Exerc Physiol · 1979 · PMID 468648 · cited in Salt, energy, metabolic rate, and longevity
  35. Thyroid thermogenesis. Relationships between Na+-dependent respiration and Na+ + K+-adenosine triphosphatase activity in rat skeletal muscleJ Clin Invest · 1976 · PMID 130385 · cited in Salt, energy, metabolic rate, and longevity
  36. Biological ion exchanger resins. IV. Evidence for potassium association with fixed charges in muscle and brain by pulsed nuclear magnetic resonance of 39KPhysiol Chem Phys · 1974 · PMID 4836049 · cited in Membranes, plasma membranes, and surfaces
  37. Changes in body temperature of the unanaesthetized monkey produced by sodium and calcium ions perfused through the cerebral ventriclesJ Physiol · 1971 · PMID 4999638 · cited in Salt, energy, metabolic rate, and longevity
  38. THE INITIAL HEAT PRODUCTION ASSOCIATED WITH THE NERVE IMPULSE IN CRUSTACEAN AND MAMMALIAN NON-MYELINATED NERVE FIBRESJ Physiol · 1965 · PMID 14298125 · cited in Phosphate, activation, and aging
  39. A relationship between multiple temperature optima for biological systems and the properties of waterJ Bacteriol · 1960 · PMID 14428935 · cited in Fatigue, aging, and recuperation

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